Neville Goddard (Date Unknown)
Acts of God Audio
Acts of God Computer-Generated Transcript
[00:00:00] If I say to you that it was Jesus himself, and not the crowd, who was conscious of the mighty acts of God. Would you think of another? I hope not.
[00:00:29] By Jesus. I simply mean your own wonderful I am-ness. That is Jesus. So I mean the individual who has experienced these mighty acts of God. Acts for his redemption.
[00:00:48] It’s not an individual outside of you, but your own wonderful I am-ness, when you say I am. That is God, and that is Jesus.
[00:01:03] Here for the last three or four weeks, they’ve been running a series of questions in the LA times on Saturday in the religious section. And the editor started it by asking the question, “How long should a sermon be?” And many of them said, “Three minutes.”
[00:01:27] For the span of interest cannot be held. They cannot be attentive beyond say three minutes. But some stretch it to five. And then this past Saturday, John Charles, Thomas Jr., you’re familiar with the name, the great singer. Now whether he is a junior or this is his son, I do not know, but he wrote a very sweet letter, and said he could take 15 minutes. If it’s well-prepared, and if the man who speaks it is convinced of what he said. If he really believes what he’s talking about and he’s prepared his thought 15 minutes will be perfectly all right. But he added this much. You have a sermon that disturbs.
[00:02:27] The sermon that in some strange way moves the individual, disturbs him. Like the comfortable person, the complacent person. It is almost certain that that preacher has an outside source of income.
[00:02:50] That you may take it for the whole vast world. Fortunately, my heavenly father saw that my earthly father could supply me with that outside source of income. That I did not have to take what I would have to take, were I not free of Caesar’s world. But when I first came into this city back in 1945, I was confronted with just such a picture.
[00:03:19] I had already spent quite a few thousand dollars to come here. I brought my family of four really, three and my wife’s niece. And we lived in the Gaylord hotel. And I think the room was $40 a day. That was a suite because there were four of us, two little girls, my wife and myself, and we ate in hotels. And lived, normally. But it was quite an expensive journey. And we came across the country by train in those days because planes were not flying, not commercially as they are today.
[00:03:59] And so the journey on a train for three and a half days across the country and then here, and he tried overnight to shut me up because I was controversial. But I said that I do not believe in the historicity of Jesus, not as it’s described by the precepts of the world, but as I get it out of the Bible, yes.
[00:04:27] But not — and he said, well, as far as I’m concerned, I teach the historicity of Jesus. And so you cannot take my platform or any of my groups. And he had dozens scattered around the area, where I was already contracted to speak. So John Charles Thomas was quite shrill. When this man learned that I was not dependent on his little monies, to go back to New York, just as I came, he relented. He rent- he relented too late though.
[00:05:07] After, I took one of those that really represented him and gave her all the money that he could have made. He went through the ceiling. It was only money. It wasn’t historicity at all. It was a matter of money. He thought I would disturb those who gave to him generously. And so if you disturb the complacent, the comfortable who support the churches.
[00:05:34] Because there’s some to sleep, three minutes and they can’t go beyond three minutes. Five minutes, that’s too much. By then they’re snoring. Ask anyone, what is the text of today’s sermon? And they can tell you.
[00:05:50] But it was something to do. You were seen in church, and therefore you are a holy man. Like a chap who just dropped out of the sky with $500,000, extorted. He was a Sunday school teacher. A very good member of the church. A junior in the Mormon university, Brigham Young University, and undoubtedly, a very bright lad. But he could extort $500,000 from the company.
[00:06:32] Of course, he only had time enough to spend $30 of it. They got him and they got the, almost the $500,000. But to come back to the substance of it all. When you take the pulpit, you are almost warned not to trade on toes, not the trade on anything, just leave it asleep. And if you don’t. Well then out to go and we will simply call a meeting and bring in another one, another preacher, who will not disturb.
[00:07:06] And if he doesn’t have an outside source of income, he will have to toe them up. Well, that is life in this world. Fortunately, he who sent me saw to it, I would not have to toe the mark, but when he embraced me. And he was infinite love. And then sent me and told me down with the blue bloods. In other words, with all protocol, with all ceremony, with all that is now given off in the form of Christianity. Or religion for that matter.
[00:07:51] Done with it by ignoring it. I can go all out and tell you exactly what you are going to experience. And so I began to experience God’s plan of redemption. And so I was bold enough to go out and tell it just as it happened to me. Because I have what we call in Barbados, a hind-claw. Where you find people chasing through the night to catch crabs. And the crab can run as fast as the individual behind him.
[00:08:26] And he can run in every direction just as fast. Forward, backwards, sideways, anything. And they’re going to make a wonderful dish out of crab meat. Well, the crab can go to a precipice. It could be 70 feet tall and right below is the ocean. And that crab can go just this fast as a man could run and disappear, but he isn’t falling.
[00:08:50] He has a hind-claw and he simply holds on and simply and buries himself and hides himself. If the man goes one second beyond his feet, into the water, 70 feet below, he goes. So we speak in Barbados of having a hind claw. That you can run and break your neck, but you aren’t going to break it if you have a hind claw.
[00:09:13] So, let them try to get you off the pulpit, get you off the stage, all these things. And if you really are saying, it will be prepared for you. You will have the hind claw. You will have that outside source of income. So you can speak boldly until exactly what has happened to you.
[00:09:37] Now Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. They are not two religions. It’s one. It’s the tree and its fruit. And Christianity is based upon the affirmation that a series of events happened in which God revealed himself in action for the salvation of man. And when did it happen? And where? Do you know it all happened in the Jewish Synagogue? The entire old Testament is written by Jews.
[00:10:18] 90% of the new Testament is written by the Jews. The new Testament is telling you what happened in the synagogue. Why in the synagogue, men began to experience the fulfillment of their own wonderful prophecy, and then they told it. Now you will say, but how did the one that is now symbolized as the one who told it. He was not the only one. It happened. As it’s happened here.
[00:10:55] Many of us are happening now. If I proceeded you by a few years, what does it matter? If I am the voice — but many of you are actually coming forward with the identical experiences. So we would form the single unit. Jesus is only a name given. The word Jesus is, I am. It’s Jehovah. Jehovah is salvation. So in man, man is having this experience.
[00:11:27] Now, did he have an outside source of income? Or may I tell you, you read the eighth chapter, the second and third verses of the book of Luke. If I said to the average Christian in the world that he was supported by rich women. They’d slap me. They’d box my ears. All I would have to say to them, go back to your Bible and read the eight chapter the second and third verses.
[00:12:01] If you’re not familiar with scripture, may I quote it for you? First of all, Luke mentions three by name. Mary, who was called Magdalene. Well Magdalene was a lady of the evening. He said he came to the sinners, he came to the harlot, he came to the tax collector. These were his friends, those that the world calls sinners.
[00:12:31] So Mary Magdalene is mentioned first, then came Johanna and then came Susanna. And then Luke adds — and many others, not just others. And many others gave to him of their means. Now the King James Version has it him, which is a right translation of the Greek. The modern translation to modify it under pressure of the editors of the present day, use the word them, trying to include disciples and followers, which it is not.
[00:13:14] The Greek word is him. It was through him that they gave of their means. And three women are mentioned, and then and many others. So he had an outside source of income, if you take it on this level. But you’ve got to take it on an entirely different level when we come to speak of Jesus.
[00:13:40] Jesus is simply the individual who has experienced God’s mighty acts of redemption. Well let us go back to the beginning of Luke. First, we start with the events. Here, first of all, were events, these things that have been accomplished among us. Now, the word translated among really should be translated within. It’s the same word that we read in the same book in the 17th chapter, the kingdom of heaven is within you.
[00:14:19] So these things have been accomplished within, not among, but within. But nevertheless, we start with the events. And here are the first four verses in as much as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things which have been accomplished among us. As they were dictated to us by those who were ministers of the word, who were eyewitnesses come the beginning.
[00:15:00] It seemed good to me. Also having followed all things closely from the very beginning. To write an orderly account for you most. Excellent. He offered us that you may know the truth concerning the things that have been told you. You’ve heard these things. They’re all things that man only. From those who had experienced it, can you believe it?
[00:15:36] Now? All this happened in the synagogue, they did not happen on the outside. These are all Jews who knew their Bible, but they’re not scholars. They were not brilliant. Mind were not the Sanhedrin. They were men who simply it happened within them. I was told this in the book of Daniel, he will give it to the loneliest of.
[00:16:01] He is not coming to give it to the so-called. Why use men of the world and those that are known, but they’re the lowliest of men. He will get it. So here are men and women in whom the thing began to unfold like a tree being right, and suddenly the blossom unfold. And here you see the fruit and they begin to describe their experiences.
[00:16:25] I knowing scripture valley, now they could pinpoint the event. That were four shattered in the old unhear there. Now there’s no new Testament, but they know they’re brought the old Testament and the only Testament to fruition. And so the began to tell their Stoney. So here we find the events, then we find the oral tradition.
[00:16:51] So people heard what, the few experience. And then there are the preachers who told them. Then Kane, the committing of the oral tradition to the written word, because it has to be recorded because those who actually heard it from those who experienced it are dying off. And so it’s time to record for posterity.
[00:17:19] What actually we heard. So now is committed to the written word. Now Luke sees what has been called. For, he said even as much as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things which have been accomplished among us now, he has not criticized those who made the attempt, but he said, it seemed good to me also having studied all things closely from the very beginning to write an orderly account.
[00:17:55] Most excellent. The office that you may know the truth concerning the things a, which you have been informed. Now it’s the office beans one who loves God. It means you are. You will not be here tonight. You already been searched. And so he’s speaking to you when you speak. So writing it for the governors one who loves God, who is in search of God, he does not condemn or in any way criticize those previous assessors who attempted the narrative.
[00:18:30] He simply claims that he has a better arrangement of the source material are not necessarily. Uh, great. I would say chronological executive. He does not put it in a chronological manner. No one does in scripture. I think I have given you a far greater chronological picture than anyone I have ever seen in this.
[00:19:02] I have told you exactly how it happened to me and the spaces in between from the moment of the awakening within me, which is resurrection and the breath coming the same night, 139 days later for the discovery of the son who reveals me as father, then 123 days after that father Spitzer. All the curtain of the temple.
[00:19:29] And I am the template for my whole body was split. And then another 290 feet day. Not no two years beyond that, bringing it through 1200 I’m 60 days. And here I’ve given you. One after the other chronologically is not really important, but I do feel that having been sent to do what I am doing and must do and will do that.
[00:20:07] It was important for one night on my bed. I wondered how long did it really take? I know what came first, what came second and what came third and I marked them all in my body. So I want them all in the Bible then put the date down and I’ve always said to the count them up. So I got off of my bed, went to my living room, turned on the light, took my Bible and took the days.
[00:20:37] And I went over and over and over. And each time it came out 1,260 days, which is the day numbered in the book of Daniel. If your name is written in the book of life, then what does it matter? It takes 1,260 days. Well, I went in and I looked at it. I took my calendar. I went through the entire thing. I could hardly believe I’m seeing correctly, but over the whole thing again, the next day, that same thing.
[00:21:13] And as often as I’d go over, it came out to 1,260 day. And I know that no one saw these mighty events of God in me, but I, myself. So in scripture, if you read it correctly, no one, but the individual who experienced it now, here is the earliest of the gospels. The book is mop. It’s the baptism and he is coming out as it is.
[00:21:47] He saw the heavens open. Didn’t say the crowd would be, he saw the heavens open and the spirit descending upon him in bodily form as a doubt. Yes, there is a voice. In my case, there was a voice and the earliest rabbinical tradition has it, that the voice of. He’s like the sun, all the voice of the doubt is called B a T H Q O L.
[00:22:30] The echo of the voice of God. I run. It comes down and descended upon you. And it’s mothers. You were the first. And your whole body is completely filled with loud. Pardon me? No one, but you the voice, but the voice is now personified as a woman, the daughter of the voice of God. And she said to me, which is not recorded in the scripture.
[00:23:01] They meaning the doubt avoid man, because man gives her. Um, awful. Oh, down. Oh, horrible, horrible. Oh, down. Most of Penn said, okay. But he loves you. And he penetrated that ring of offense to demonstrate his love for you. But now the older that I give off and you give off is not because we are carnivorous. I need meat because the vegetarian instincts as much.
[00:23:38] It’s not that it is simply the thoughts we entertain you and I entertain the most horrible thoughts in the course of a day. And manly is not by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God and God is, I am. So every idea that I entertain is proceeding out of me. I mean, when I entered in these things, I’m feeding upon them and they give off the most offensive odor and the doubt, the symbol of the holy spirit of Boyd’s man, until that moment, that is so compelling.
[00:24:18] He has to penetrate that ring of a faint and come down upon that one I’m gives his seal of approval. So. This story opens up with this statement in Luke, the spirit of the Lord, God is upon me. You read it in the early chapters of Luke. He comes out of the water. What may I tell you? You don’t see water, but the dust floats, but I doubt can float is not given like a duck or any bird of that nature.
[00:24:58] He doesn’t have a. And yet when I looked at the dub, say 20 feet about me, it simply was Tishri I’m the crystal clear atmosphere. As he said, the heavens opened, he saw the heavens open and here is a doubt floating actually floating because only if it floated could remain so stationary. And as I on my own.
[00:25:27] The most affectionate look. And then I raised my hand like Noah in the Ark and I raised it. And my index finger on the left hand went out automatically. And the duck this, send it through this crystal clear area and then lit on my finger and I brought it to my face and it smothered me in love and kisses and affection.
[00:25:51] And while it’s actually smelling me with. The whole thing dissolved, no one saw it, but the voice of the doctor, which is the echo of God she had was who sit in my lip, who told me of the offense that man gets off on how his love was so overpowering that he penetrated that ring of a pains to demonstrate his love for me.
[00:26:20] And then he came down in bodily form her. So you pull appealed the 61st chapter of Isaiah, the spirit of the Lord, God is upon me. He has a known Jimmy they’ll preach glad tidings to the poor and to open the prison doors of those who are in strained. And then he closed the book and return it to the attendant.
[00:26:45] And then all the eyes were upon him because of what he gets. And in a matter of moments, there were stoning him today. So he disturbed the complacency of people. So when you take the platform and you in any way, disturbed the comparable, those who are complacent, those who are now quite satisfied with the pre-fabricated misconception of scripture, they don’t want any.
[00:27:19] And you disturbed them or they had a warrant. You wouldn’t get a Saudi, you will be out for if they learned that you have an outside source of income, then they respect you as all the respect anyway, money. What caused this man to take this $500,000? Was it not the love of money and someone imitating him within 24 hours?
[00:27:44] So the current. They said he was about an imbecile, but he was asking for Napa 500,000 because how easy it was to get it. So they got them though. Ron had mapped the whole thing out and he thought it the perfect crime, they could never find this. He did everything he thought was the right thing. And seemingly betrayed by his intimate friend who knew his secret.
[00:28:12] Can’t you see? His closest friend betrayed him. No one can be afraid. You who does not have no secret. And so his closest friend and his sister-in-law betrayed him for reasons, not yet told, but they couldn’t stand it. And so we are told in scripture, his closest friend, he who dipped into the dish with.
[00:28:38] Betrayed me only my intimate friend to whom I reveal my secret could ever be training. Dovan knows the secrets of a man, but the spirit of man, no one knows the secrets of God, but the spruce of God. So if God reveals his secret, only the one to whom you reveal it could be trained and he has to be his closest friend.
[00:29:05] That’s the story. So he writes a narrative around these events. So you can tell all kinds of things around the series of events, or they aren’t very many, they are mighty acts by which God unveils himself in the individual for the salvation of that individual. And the salvation of the individual is to reveal him as God.
[00:29:35] So this story of Jesus Christ. If I could only get you to feel I will break right into two and speak of Jesus as Lord and Christ as his son. But man, hasn’t been taught at that rate yet. You were right at one day. I have given it to you from the platform and now you have it on tape. That’s all light, but I still feel that the written word.
[00:30:02] Is more or less thing. This is a wonderful electronic age and you can put it on if you have the machine, but the written word, when you have it written. So at leisure, you can just be turned back and read it one day. Someone is going to write it just that I have told it, I know recorded on cassette, but you will take it from the cast set.
[00:30:27] And one of you will have the ability to. And he claimed, he simply took the oral traditions for, he followed them closely from the very beginning and having seen what colors attempted to do for in as much as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things which have been accomplished. And how they came.
[00:30:52] They came by the oral tradition, the preaching of the word that they are heard, then having followed all things closely from the very beginning, it seemed good to be also to write an orderly account for you. The awfulness, you will love it of God, that you may know the truth concerning these things, which you have been informed.
[00:31:17] And so he writes the book of. And the book of acts. There’s no play claiming that he is better than it. Claims is simply a better arrangement of the old road traditions who Luke is. No one knows they’re all anonymous. Matthew mark, Luke and John are anonymous names. No one knows who they are, but there are those who are qualified to write the oral traditions for it all came dung in that.
[00:31:48] But then when those who heard it from the source in the beginning are approaching the point of dying from this section of time and needing it, it naturally be who is someone to recall it if it’s worth recording. And so he thought it worth recording in the written form. And so he recorded it in our gospel called Luke.
[00:32:11] So that’s how it’s done. Now. I’ve been saying to clarify points. I feel my entire mission is to tell you who Christ to believe I in Christ is David. If the whole vast world rose in opposition tonight, and if I were physically nailed, it would make no difference. I would not enjoy the pain naturally, but if that was what I had to pay, I would willingly pay, but I could not weekend.
[00:32:41] I could not recant what I have. That David of biblical fame is the Christ. He is the unknowns. You that the Lord, he is the son of God. And the only one that can reveal God to you. And he, isn’t going to say that is your product. He is going to look at you. And then when he looks at you, you will know who the father is because you know, you are his father.
[00:33:12] I am. He is God’s son and you’ll know that. And there is no doubt in your mind as to who he is and therefore who you are because you know the relationship. And that’s what I’ve been saying to tell you I’m. So in the not distant future, this garment will come off. You will have a record. Others will have an oral tradition and someone would have the ability to tell it.
[00:33:41] Power the talent, but in this present state, my headwind, the thought, the depth of my own beam. So it fit to give me an outside source of income that I could tell it. And that I could not be shunted from here to there because I am disturbing the stumbles of the complacent and the wealthy and the very comfortable people of the world.
[00:34:07] Don’t think for one second. It hasn’t happened and happens. I will happen for Emma. One lady in New York city. She hated Bishop Manning. He was the Bishop of St. Thomas 53rd street and fifth avenue and she left $2 million. And her wheel was, it goes to St. Thomas, if Bishop Manning is. Or if he is still alive, it goes to St.
[00:34:39] Luke’s hospital. Well, still Luke’s is owned by the Episcopal church. So it doesn’t really matter. You’ll give it to St. Thomas or you’ll give it to St Luke’s. So she left a wheel that if it is, if he is still alive, that thing then send Thomas does not get it. If he is day, it. If he is alive, St. Luke’s get now here.
[00:35:09] One day I was dining at the university club in New York city. And my friend who was my host, took me to the window and I looked up through the window and I saw this enormous wall. And I said, what am I supposed to see? He said, just what you’re seeing. Do you see anything I said was just a wall, a plain wall.
[00:35:32] That goes all the way. To the hype of some building that is there. Well, he said that building that in hide is in Thomas’ church and that is a spite wall built by John D Rockefeller. The first, he too had an argument with the Bishop Bishop. And to spite him, he built on his own land, a wall that can be covered all the beautiful, uh, glass windows, these beautiful colors that paste not in New York city.
[00:36:14] And he left to veil that even to this day, which is now the whole generation after his death, that can not break that Neal. So you’re going to send Thomas today and you’ll see beautiful tablets. Hanging where if you could remove the tapestry and the wall to get the light through, you’ll see the most beautiful, wonderful glass that is there.
[00:36:39] You can only see the burst that faces the west and that which goes south. But the Northern view is completely blocked out by the spite wall, by a man who considered himself a very religious. He was against prohibition against spoken against all things. And he was a devout Baptist, but not give out to the point.
[00:37:04] He would not go and analyze all kinds of soil and only he knew figures backwards. And so he could just multiply and multiply it into billions. And so he thinks that his virtuality and that was still is them in New York city. And you go into that lovely church. I’ve gone in many a time, but the best place, just to hear the organ, a beautiful organ and some great organist is always playing.
[00:37:35] So you’re going, especially in the winter months, when winter set early around four o’clock, it’s all dark and quite often around the fall, I was going to St. Thomas and just sit in the back and view that beautiful organ and look to the setting sun, because just before. We got from that rest in view that he Novus bursts through those beautiful colors that is over the town.
[00:38:02] And I could have got a bit from the south by the know all hidden by these tapestries, but at least I thoroughly enjoy the beautiful music that came from the origin. So this is what everyone confronts in this world of Caesar. So tomorrow I have a little fun and ask the complacent and ask those who are completely asleep.
[00:38:31] If Jesus had any supporters and they will tell the old note, he could bring gold out of the fish’s mouth. He could do all these things. And why would he want anything other than the, the ability to do these things? And then just casually opened the book. To the eight chapter and have him, or have her read the second and third verses that they gave him all their means and many others and they named three and one was a harlot.
[00:39:05] She had a wonderful clientele and gave generously to one who set her free. Instead of condemning her for her profession. He let her go. And then you took that one commandment from the 10 and any man, he uses that in the sermon of the month. Any man who looks lustfully, although a woman has already committed the act in his heart with him.
[00:39:36] So then he said to her rock, man is without sin. So go my deal. And so she continued to go her way. And reward generously if you take it on that level, but on all these devils, you can take scripture, hold the art is built on three levels and you have your physical level, your psychological level and your spiritual level.
[00:40:05] I am trying to raise you to the spiritual level where these mighty acts take place within us. I’m going to take place within us. There are seen by no. But the individual in whom they took place. So the doubt comes down and who sees it? No one of the crowd. And so you’re splitting two and who sees it? No one, but you, you see David and who sees it just, you you’ll come back and you’ll tell the Stoney how you rose, but you know, grave and you came out of that.
[00:40:45] With an innate wisdom as to what to do. I know one saw you do it. Will they believe you? I said to my dentist, I told the whole story. He him, one day he said, do your brothers, remember he had to bring it down to this level for my three brothers, were the witnesses to the event as told you by tradition. The three who richness the three Kings were brothers.
[00:41:16] In my case, there were my brothers, sessile, Victor and Lawrence, and the three Kings in the book of Matthew were considered brothers.
[00:41:28] And so tradition has it that way. In my case, there were brothers and they came from a afar, probably a thousand miles away, but certainly they came in. And they have no knowledge in this conscious little world of season. I was the part that played in my awakening. None whatsoever. I tell them when I went home, I got the air of the one who found the child, but I didn’t get the air.
[00:41:58] The others, they thought, well, it’s never, you still reading. He was reading when he was a child, he is still dreaming. So the same mystical child doing what he did when he was a child, he hasn’t changed at all. So leave them to themselves. My brother Lawrence, before he departed this well, he had the experience and he questioned me seriously when I went home.
[00:42:23] And what asked me certain passages of scripture. Can you quote the first verse of Hebrews when I did the first loop and the first of this, the first. And he was so surprised. How can you do this? I said, because I love the book. Sometimes Lauren, I feel I wrote it. I feel, I love it. I feel sometimes I inspire because I have now a weekend to remember it.
[00:42:52] And I’m actually having the experiences of all that is there. And so I can’t deny the feeding. Sometimes that possesses me, that I inspired him protocol. He who is the father of DV inspired the book? I certainly muster because I am the father of David. The Lawrence took that under consideration. And then a year later he was gone from this section of time.
[00:43:18] The other two are still with us and they are businessman and very successful business, Spain and have no time for this. I am never, and they’re what they are. Allow me to be what I am, but it was so set up in the beginning with my heavenly father, that he is going to send me into this world to do what I have to do.
[00:43:44] And do I must do I, will I knowing what happens to the preacher, when he steps on the toes of the sleeping ones who contribute to his income, they can fire him over. He saw to it that I would not be fired and all the thing that struck me. So possibly when I first came here, when this man with all of these degrees, all self-imposed because Richard, he gets them, he gets them all to himself.
[00:44:17] And then he did the telling me that I must not teach from his pack from the non historicity of Jesus. And I told her that I know from explore. That he is the only reality in the world, but not secretary. So it’s not secular history that our evangelists were writing. Matthew, mark, Luke, and John, they themselves are unknown and they were not writing secular history.
[00:44:43] They were writing theology. They were not writing as historians, as biographers. They were putting down things that no water I could. I’m building around it, the most glorious story that it could enter into lowly mind just like yours. And so you believe in the histories and he wouldn’t bat an eye to take from you.
[00:45:09] What was in your pockets? If you didn’t have them nailed down, I’m not criticizing him. I’m just telling you what I know from experience. I went through that with him.